Loving the Air Fuel Variance, bobon that. Also very similar in the way it makes its power, but furkin amazing for a stock motor!
Out of interest, how did everyone run their engines in? Was it sticking to 6k and under for 6 miles, or ride it like you stole it?
Mine goes back to BSD on 3 rd May for dyno set up with the baffle out. I had to have the Arata set up with the baffle in last time as there was the impending visit from the Police regarding the neighbours complaints. It made 162.45 and 80 TQ, ( he said standard 06 Blades usually make around 152 on his dyno but of course it varies ). Mark thinks he should be able to get the bhp up by about 6 bhp with the baffle out, so that sounds promising. I am also having a switch put in so I can run between the two maps (baffle in and out). I don't expect i will notice too much difference between baffle in and out as the main boost has been with the air mods and the full system. When I first got the Blade I was a little disappointed with the power, but now she is flying, it is so smooth and just keeps pulling and pulling. The sound of the intake now is incredible, must get a quiter helmet
Dyno depends on so many factors and is only a tool to know what direction your going in when tuning.. I agree on the induction noise mate mine was fine stock but you have to use ear plugs on mine now or it hurts my ears big time and lets just say after 25-30 years on the chain saw cutting wood for the house fires I am used to a little noise...lol
Well I love my big bhp big torque of my standard engine mint!! Even CC only has.2 of a pony more and has a full on superbikes engine!! Will be nice to compare my graph with yours CC c'mon man get you pic up of run!!
I will Bats I will, however my laptops died AGAIN so is back to the shop for repair under warranty from ye last repair, Looks like a new hard drive :-( Ps just one thing mines not a full on BSB motor, it's completely standard bottom end, I do have a set of mahl Rods & pistal pistons to go in but I'm buying loads of bits to hopefully build a second full on engine or may even a wet bike. Chris Meyhew was saying with lightened flywheel, balanced Crank plus the Rods & pistons I'd have nigh On 195 but I still wouldn't have the trick HRC bored out crankcases etc So missing the last 15bhp the last of my shape HM plant bikes had.
2006 Blade After decat, filter, flapper mod and acra slip on I downloaded a map off the power commander website for the PCV. Bike ran o.k. but a bit rich. SEE BLUE LINE Then took it to PDQ for a custom map thinking I would let loose Satan's own horses. A wise looking bloke fettled on the dyno for two hours and produced the following graph. SEE RED LINE Anti-climax.... I was frankly suprised at that the result; It was an almost exact copy for BHP and Torque compared to before he started. The fuelling has improved though and its smoother of the mark. Nevertheless, I am disappointed that the dyno time had little or no effect on the peak figures. I suppose the downloaded map from the web was pretty close, or the motor is operating to at its optimum already. Still quick enough to scare me so I don't let it worry me. IGNORE GREEN LINE (baffle in)
Have a look at my thread #27 ! Same bloke, same result, same disappointment for me ! And same DynoJet PDQ.
Yes Devil, I read your post. Do you think we have been shortchanged or has everyone else is getting a rose tinted version of reality? I would have thought your bike would have been quite a bit stronger than mine being a 2011.
Can't really say much, but maybe it's the Dyno op And not the bike. A Dyno is only as good as the bloke Using it.
I really don't know what to think about the results. But it does look strange that we both come up with nothing. I am tempted to do it again on another Dyno.
Guys you need to look at the correction factor being used (top right of chart)! I dont have it on my phone but all the charts here are on the money, yours is in EEC! Dont be dissapointed as REAL power for an RR7 and 8s is around 160bhp with no engine mods no matter what, tbh 155-158 is more like real world imo I would say mine is the same real world power of around 160 with whats listed, cc's will be stronger than mine with cams etc but you can not compare them unless same dyno same veribles same day same same same so the charts mean very little in a shoot out unless done one in one out, its the curve that matters as like I say the dyno is only a tool to know what direction you are going.
Ignoring the headline BHP and torque figures wouldn't you expect a bigger improvement over the downloaded map ? I think I'd be disappointed spending around £150 for so little change.
I know what you mean but it depends on how you look at it. If your looking for gains then yes I guess you could be disappointed but its catch 22 as without the dyno time you would never know what the AFR is like I think you have to look at it as the money spent is peace of mind now knowing the AFR is good and the tweaks bring it into line for your bike its not unusual that the DJ maps are close and they make the dyno ops job a lot easier thats for sure they often use there own database of maps to get them in the ball park even if a customer has not downloaded on. Question you have to ask is do you think 150 is a hight price to pay for the peace of mind that your motor is not running lean causing damage to the engine, also those tweaks have perfected your AFR and customized the bikes fueling to get it spot on IMO its small change when you look at the total cost of the bikes in question and the last few quid to get it perfect..
I will dig out the info I have on Correction factors too but loads of info on google, well worth a read imo Like this:- Dyno results and what it all means. EEC gives the lowest numbers! http://www.ducati.ms/forums/11-ducati-motorcycle-chat/15510-why-dynojet-numbers-always-wrong-4.html
Mine has more or less the same mods as yours,the first runs I had she was punting out 163bhp@80deg coolant temp,the bhp took a dive @ 90 deg coolant temp to about 159.5bhp,but the fueling was lean as hell at 40-50% throttle,my m8 said he would correct the fueling(richen) upto 6-7000 rpm and leave it as it was after that on the higher rev range.OK she now punts out 159.9bhp @ 80ish deg coolant temp as she seldom goes much higher than that on the road,but trust me guys,she's a pleasure to ride,exit power out of bends is without a dought more sharper and crisper. Theres always a trade off somewhere along the line,I sacrificed a few peak power Ge ge's for more torque
I think maps downloaded from DynoJet are normally really good for Japanese bikes as the manufacturing tolerances are fairly tight, so individual engines don't differ much. I'm totally happy with my downloaded map.
