Gearing

Discussion in 'Mods, Upgrades, Accessories and Products' started by exfire, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. JM1

    JM1 Active Member

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    Oops just noticed exfire already linked that site in his OP
     
  2. exfire

    exfire Elite Member

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    Hi all, thanks for all the replies. The popular combinations seem to be -1 F +2 R and -1 F + 1 R.

    The Gearing Commander Chart shows a lot of figures but does not directly give an indication of the changes made to acceleration for each gearing combination.

    The Blade has a good top end speed and I do not mind reducing it a bit but I can't make an informed decision because I can't find out how much acceleration I will gain (or lose) for each gear combination.

    Even a simple thing like 0 to 100 mph or standing quarter mile figures would help so that I can compare them to stock settings.

    Is there a relatively simple way to calculate this ?

    Any help would be appreciated..............lots of added weight for my bike now following Xmas.
     
  3. megawatt

    megawatt Well-Known Member

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    There's a fookin simple way to work out the increase in accel mate. Buy a 15T front, fit it and try it. Cost you about £15:D
     
  4. exfire

    exfire Elite Member

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    Thanks megawatt, but I would also need to buy one or two other rear sprockets as well. I wonder if the Missus would stand at the end of the road with a stop watch while I try the different combinations out ? :)
     
  5. zeepony

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    just +2 on the rear for me - best of both worlds IMO
     
  6. exfire

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    @ zeepony, did you notice much difference on the acceleration ?
     
  7. zeepony

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    ^ Yes. Plenty.

    Even with stock gearing, pinning the throttle in 1st, 2nd, 3rd out of corners is not easy and i doubt many can actually fully open it on regular road conditions. Sure in a straight line it will give you more juice but then you have to struggle to keep the front down.

    So i go for more easy to use power - just my opinion though!
     
  8. masterblader

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    On 2008 onwards the overall ratios were slightly wider than all the other models and is more user friendly for the road user. In laymans terms the 2008 + models is doing 75mph @5000 whilst the other blades are doing
    80mph. Tried a 15t front on my 04/07 engine didnt like the delivery or the vibration.
     
  9. CastrolCraig

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    Still dont get this vibration thing, changing a sprocket cant cause a vibration that wasnt there before, unless its ill fitted or you buy cheap sprockets.

    Ive changed hundreds of sprockets on various bikes and never found one causing vibration.
     
  10. JM1

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    The change in acceleration will be relative to the % change in gearing, but its not as simple as that because you can only put down so much power before it turns into wheelies/wheelspin. Ignore the numbers, you need to just try it and see how it feels.
     
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  11. masterblader

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    Renthal sprockets fore and aft, probable cause is the tighter turning radius on a 530 from 4k on the bike was not as smooth as 16 toother doing a back to back test. Ill fitting a sprocket is almost an impossibilty. Rode a blade with 15t X 525 which proved a point to me.
     
  12. exfire

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    Thanks for the replies. I realise that experimentation will give the best results but I can't afford to purchase various sprockets and try them out.

    There seems a lot of 'discussion' on what the best chain type is on here and elsewhere. Some opinions say that dropping the front teeth makes a tighter curve which is not so good for a 530 chain and thus a 525 or 520 should be used. Opinion on this does vary though.

    I do not currently have any issue with the front lifting, I tend to keep my weight fairly forward, so a little lift would be fine.

    I suppose I do ride hard and do pin it as often as I can and although I am still getting used to the bike I want some more acceleration especially out from bends. A new exhaust system PC and tune on the dyno will help but that is coming after the sprockets and suspension work.

    So I am now dithering between -1 F and +2 R or -1 F +1 R and also dithering between a 530/525/520 chain....... decisions decisions. :confused: It I will go for Tsubaki chain and Renthal sprockets, so that is something decided.

    Anyone got Valentinos number or Burgess's ? even Casy Stoner's will do ? ;)
     
  13. megawatt

    megawatt Well-Known Member

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    I always buy 525 DID Gold X ring, doesn't rust the side plates and I've had 25,000 miles outta the one that I will replace this winter. Chaincare is a lube with Mucoff dry ptfe every 200 miles and a wash with parafffin every month !
     
  14. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Wow you want more....! Your the man, do what I do stay in a lower gear and hold it for longer, get a quick action throttle, full system, rework air intake, filters, PCV and map, problem solved! I like to keep mine stock gearing hold the gear higher in the rev range and pin it mid turn that way I have more top end then all those that go lower...lol :D I only shift when I see the light and I have NEVER been passed by a lower geared bike, you could always get a nice big fat V Twin for more drive...lol
     
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  15. exfire

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    Cheers guys, yes Arthur I miss the drive of the two Ducatis I had and the SP1.................but I do not miss the bills for the Ducatis.

    I always want more Arthur, been like that all my life mate, more women, more drink, more fun, more speed......Oh yeah.........and more money.

    I am holding it in gear as high as possible, but it just isn't scaring me enough :). Yeah I do need the full exhaust system and the PC and the intake mods and the dyno..............and some more money.

    The rear Ohlins was expensive enough and I need to pay to have it fitted yet and possibly re-sprung to my weight and set up and still need the KTech rework on the front. Damn bikes.............it is such an expensive addiction, I hate to think how much I have spent on them in 38 years, that would be scary.

    Must remember to buy a lottery ticket.:rolleyes:
     
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  16. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    lol I KNOW what your saying mate.. :) Thats your problem chap your too used to the twins, but I agree a superbike should be superscary...lol Try closing your eyes for a count of two before corner entery...lol Mate my advice would be drop one tooth on the front and see how you go, got to be worth a tenner.. :)

    What years your bike mate?
     
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  17. gixerlc

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    what you reckon is worth doing to the air intakes on a 10' Arthur :)

    think Im going to go for either a 44 or down one on the front not sure yet

    Thanks

    Tom
     
  18. exfire

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    Hi Arthur, mines a 2006 and it's black so it should be faster than all the other colours lol. I often close my eyes when I am riding, doesn't
    everyone ? especially when cornering and every time a deer jumps out on me, which is pretty regular.

    The V twin grunt coming out of corners is something I miss and probably suits my riding style. In 1998 I went from a CBR600 to a brand new R1....that was scary. I accidentally wheelied it off the forecourt when I picked it up and only just got the front down before a major roundabout. Adrenalin is brown.

    I really love the Blade, but a superbike should be scary, maybe I should ride only at night with the lights off lol..........could be fun.

    I think dropping one from the front is a good start the rest of the mods will have to wait .....at least a few more months. Cheers.
     
  19. megawatt

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    Cheap and effective ! If you don't like it , someone on here will have it !!!;)
     
  20. Nutty Tart

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    Is that a bit like wotsisface "only brake when I see God" ... so you have 'seen the light' then Art ... sh1t you are one scary dude :)
     

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