More on the Chinese parts debate

Discussion in 'Mods, Upgrades, Accessories and Products' started by nigelrb, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. bazzashadow

    bazzashadow Elite Member

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    Yep
    Was thinking of spraying mine black
    But think the carbon would match the hugger:D
     
  2. bazzashadow

    bazzashadow Elite Member

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    Just for that reason nigel.
    I would of preferred the same colour as the frame but how much this has cost me I could not of sprayed mine for that.
    And the passenger pegs really did change the look of the bike.
    Think matt might of look good as well
     
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  3. Lozzy

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    Yeah guess they would :) ....mind you I'm not sure how they stand up to scuffing?!?
     
  4. bazzashadow

    bazzashadow Elite Member

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    No I would worry about that and how strong they are
     
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  5. Lozzy

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    I still think you should invest in some street hooks from the guy off this forum. Those pegs weigh heavy and it makes the bike look so much more sleek with them off!
    It only takes a minute to re attach the pegs to the hooks if you're taking a pillion etc....I've done it several times now when I've needed my panniers on :)
     
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  6. bazzashadow

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    Will have to look up side hooks.
    I’m not a 100% if I like the bare look of the back without pegs
     
  7. nigelrb

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    Ah, I think you'll come around soon enough!!;)
     
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  8. nigelrb

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    But Bazz, it's like dating a girl with braces. You gotta get rid of the interference!!;)

    All us SP owners agree, and because @Lozzy 's getting VERY close to buying one she'll agree too. Not sure though if they do Satos (or similar) for the 17 - 19s.

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  9. BlackDevil

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    One example:


    Chinese levers, some research to tink about......


    Some research:

    CNC doesn’t mean anything. Period. It is a machining process. Levers (CNC) are from a piece of billet aluminium (US-EU made) are stronger than a lever made out of CNC'd pot metal (Chinese made). There are also many different grades of aluminium, like aircraft grade aluminium for example.

    6061 is the most popular grade of aluminium, but even different 6061 aluminium’s vary greatly depending on their temper.

    The mechanical properties of 6061 depend greatly on the temper, or heat treatment, of the material.

    6061-O:
    Annealed 6061 (6061-O temper) has maximum tensile strength no more than 18,000 psi (125 MPa), and maximum yield strength no more than 8,000 psi (55 MPa). The material has elongation (stretch before ultimate failure) of 25–30%.

    6061-T4:
    T4 temper 6061 has an ultimate tensile strength of at least 30,000 psi (207 MPa) and yield strength of at least 16,000 psi (110 MPa). It has elongation of 16%.

    6061-T6
    T6 temper 6061 has an ultimate tensile strength of at least 42,000 psi (300 MPa) and yield strength of at least 35,000 psi (241 MPa). More typical values are 45,000 psi (310 MPa) and 40,000 psi (275 MPa), respectively. In thicknesses of 0.250 inch (6.35 mm) or less, it has elongation of 8% or more; in thicker sections, it has elongation of 10%. T651 temper has similar mechanical properties. The typical value for thermal conductivity for 6061-T6 at 80°C is around 152 W/m K. A material data sheet defines the fatigue limit under cyclic load as 14,000 psi (100 MPa) for 500,000,000 completely reversed cycles using a standard RR Moore test machine and specimen. Note that aluminium does not exhibit a well-defined "knee" on its S-n graph, so there is some debate as to how many cycles equates to "infinite life". Also note the actual value of fatigue limit for an application can be dramatically affected by the conventional de-rating factors of loading, gradient, and surface finish.

    Info

    Aluminium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Pot metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billet_...turing)#Billet

    Aluminium alloy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Manufacturers like ASV, Gilles, Harris, Pazzo etc. have quality control and the Levers are MOT, TUEV, EU tested and approved! Which means that if a product does not meet a minimum standard it is thrown away. Chinese manufacturing facilities do not. As long as it looks like a popularly named US or EU product they put it up on ebay. Unfortunately people buy them. Some people might NEVER have a problem with them, maybe only a handful actually have problems, but I am not willing to take that risk at all. THE most important systems on your bike are the brakes etc. , aren't they?

    So, it's your risk looking cool with cheap Chinese levers.
     
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  10. hitch

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    ...not to be (too much) of a party pooper :oops: ...but as good as those footrests look in black I would always have it in the back of my mind that they were cheap chinese items. Especially footrests where all of your weight will be (not all the time but still).
     
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  11. Stuish

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    Yeah I don't think I could trust something that pivotal, brake levers or footpegs. Fasteners, no worries and stuff like satnav mounts etc, but nothing thst coukd compromise safety.
     
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  12. PauloHRC

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    I have some street hooks that are brand new @bazzashadow. I bought them for my 09 but never got round to fitting them.

    Yours for £20 ;)

    Ps they are silver so will need painting if you're to maintain the 'Streethawk' look :)
     
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  13. Lozzy

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    Bloody hell bargain :) get em bought Bazza ban-flag.gif
     
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  14. Stuish

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    Bargain, if Bazza doesn't want them, and you still want to sell them, I'll more than happily take those off your hands :)
     
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  15. nigelrb

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    Bazza already said that he doesn't enjoy the bare-arsed look - or words to that effect. I think he meant his bike, but then again, it could have been that kilt pic!;)
     
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  16. PauloHRC

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    I think Bazza is is looking at a set of new bar ends anyway!:rolleyes:
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  17. Lozzy

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    Pmsl :D:D:D
     
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  18. bazzashadow

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    I like them Paulo
    Where do you get them from;):D:D
    Like nigel said I’m not sure about the naked look.
    I don’t know what you lot are on about, these hook thingies.:D
    And I have only just brought black hangers:confused:
     
  19. nigelrb

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    Think I've got those in my assortment of anal bead paraphernalia:D:D;). Just have to roll up the streamers into the Calvin Kleins!
     
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