This is why the only other sc77 I see on a track day is my mates 2. The amount of people that pop over for a chat and say you don’t see many of these on track??? Then I got to explain why.. Or they just point and say that’s the bike that almost killed guy and John
Erm, I think I'd be replacing 'long time' with forever. Anyone racing enthusiast who sees these bikes in the SP or SP2 colour will always reflect on those tragic circumstances. Perhaps akin to Imola being remembered as the loss of Ayrton Senna rather than the many positive events and wins shared by many.
I have had the same said to me outside a café a few times ha ha I had the same happen to me on my triumph 765 on Tuesday at snetterton so I can now say watch them boys in Moto 2 hitting false neutrals, luckily mine didn't end in tears but it so nearly did with me just short of t boning my mate on his s1000rr ha ha
Wish there was light at the end of the tunnel but truth be told I’m giving up hope. Just hand it back and change manufactures again. And I really like the bike
The same thing can and has happened on other bikes just Hondas happened at the TT My mate last June at Brno on S1000RR had it happen and someone else i no has had it happen on his gsxr1000R so thats 4 different manufactures. Touch wood but it hasnt happened so far on my SP2
Change the tyre size or sprockets and it will happen not stop and your traction control will be as much use as a chocolate tea pot. Lovely road bike just pointless if you want to do trackdays
Which is so frustrating right? - the bike is promoted as a track force to be reckoned with. But that's not true without gutting all street capability Well, the entire bikes are mechanically and electronically different to any of our street Hondas. The only way to run custom gearing and wheel profiles is with the HRC ECU or a complete 3rd party unit such as a Mag Marelli that has its own torque management system using its own IMU and array of sensors. And as it is the Redbull TenKate bikes Mag Marelli torque management is sublime - my mate now has 4 track days under the belt with Camiere 2018 Redbull bike and loves it. It seems the Honda was just not fast enough - but the systems work really well. Feedback I have had from a number of race teams running the HRC ECU is that the system works really well - and the Honda is fast enough in ASBK, NZSB, Brazilian SB etc to kick arse because the other teams running Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Ducati are not as fast as the factory efforts in WSBK. So it seems that the Honda & HRC package is plenty fast enough in the regional series but not good enough to win in WSBK. Which is funny as Honda Corporate do not put much effort in supporting the regional series.
True. HRC only seem interested in MotoGP. Not sure how much input they are having in the new Moriwaki team in WSBK - but i've heard they've written this year off already as a "testing" year. Camier's not bad - but Kiyo is way past it at World level. Mind you FCC TSR won the FIM EWC championship on the new blade.
If I could get away with running a 55 profile tyre I would be over the moon, but it just ain’t going to happen without major risk to life and limb. Or someone comes up with a track tyre that has a 50 profile. For now I’m just using sp’s as I can’t find another alternative
Relatively new blade owner (got a 2018 in January this year) - can I ask a bone question? At present I’ve got a stock UK 2018 RR - if I was to take it on track am at risk? I am planning to do track days but also apart from a slip on and some cosmetic changes I’m not looking to change anything else. Is the issue with false neutrals down to changes to the stock gearing/sprocket/tyre sizes? Thanks Andy
Andy, glad you posted. You are correct in your assessment of causes of the issues on the stock bike. I think we need to clear something up for other folks that may read our technical discussions and think the SC77 is a grenade with the pin pulled waiting to crash due to the issues John and Guy suffered. Johns bike had a throttle issue, not a gear box issue, and Guys "box of neutrals" was as much mechanical as it was anything else as he physically could not get the gear engaged. These gents bikes where NOT stock in any way shape or form and where running HRC gear boxes and HRC electronics with Giles rear sets etc. Stock street 2017+ riders need not worry about any of the issues they experienced or we are discussing. The only time you will experience issues is if you change your tires to include a rear tire with a different width/aspect ratio and/or you change your front and rear sprocket tooth counts. If your bike is stock you can thrash it as hard and as often as you want. Some operational advice on using the Quick Shift assisted up shifts and Autoblipper assisted down shifts is the following: Quick Shift requires you do NOT touch the clutch lever while up-shifting and be in the upper 1/3rd of the rev range at full throttle for the best results. Autoblipper needs you to again not touch the clutch and completely close the throttle as you shift down the gear box. Hope that helps put your mind at ease
As said above, the bikes are perfect as long as the Rolling radius of tyres or gearing is not adjusted. We just turn the blipper off and live with the traction control issues if we do change any of these. But if you just want to enjoy the bike in a safe environment then keep it stock and enjoy
