Just had jab no.2 today (az), five days late due to a bout of shingles and nuralger. What a shit year so far!
Just had my 2nd AZ. First knocked me out for a day or so, this one left me feeling tired for the evening and a bit slow the next day.
I was offered the jab, turned up for my appointment, read the leaflet twice & backed out. I've read nothing before or since that convinces me it makes any difference to healthy people. Information, other than from the Government or the manufacturers, is surprisingly difficult to find. It's also difficult to find countries that have formally approved their use other than under emergency rules. With so many people protected, why can we still not travel to other countries and, if it's so effective against variants, why is there talk of local lockdowns to contain variants? I find it difficult to trust companies that have a track record of falsifying data and/or bribing people to publish data that favours their products. I'm not knocking people that have chosen to have it. It's about personal choice, and choice shouldn't be swayed by coercion using dubious 'facts' which aren't yet known.
I must say I felt some changes after the first one which I don't know if it were coincidence a reaction so I sit on the fence regarding this. Has the second vac; other than the headach for a couple of days, no new changes and I have not turned into a werewolf! But the new information leaflet they give out is more scary than the one I had 3 month ago
I agree with all of the above and I would not even consider it until full trials are complete in 2023.
I had my first jab a couple of weeks ago, had to have Pfizer as I am under 40 . No after effects apart from the feeling of having been punched in the arm for 2 days. Don't feel like I needed it but with a bike trip to Spain booked for September I wanted the tick in the box just incase UK or Spain start insisting on it. Definitely get the feeling the goalposts are about to be moved however with the "Indian" variant
I think the leaflet is about as useful as those packets of nuts that warn you "this packet contains nuts". I trust the jab enough to have it after a Dr in the family told me it was as safe as the flu jab - in as much as nothing is totally safe but safer than catching the virus. YMMV.
The only guaranteed immunity the so called vaccine offers is to its manufacturers........from prosecution.
Why? Because the virus is running riot due to people being offered the vaccine and turning it down. Sound familiar?
So we're led to believe. 58 deaths in the whole of the U.K. in the last 7 days, for people that tested positive in the previous 28 days. There's a long way to go before that could be described as "running riot". This is from more than 6 million tests, many of which undoubtedly include people not eligible for the vaccine, who far outnumber people who exercise their choice in not having it. Are those people the problem? I do 2 tests per week, partly because I work in a college with 20,000 students across the group. Zero deaths since the pandemic started, surprisingly, despite being situated in some of the riskiest areas in the country. Poplar/Tower Hamlets, Redbridge & Hackney are the main campuses, with an overwhelming BAME majority community. The staff at all sites represent the local demographic. The suggestion that unvaccinated people are endangering vaccinated people does not stand up. It either works or it doesn't.
I don't have precise facts and dates to hand but didn't the pandemic get its brakes on when we started vaccinations? The mere fact that it seemed to either protect the healthy or reduce the seriousness of those infected was enough for me. Maybe I'm lucky but I had no after effects, not even a sore arm. I have a voluntary position in an Academy with about 1000 students and staff and there's no way I'd go in there without the jab. To me the risk is greater without it than the risk of it harming me.
So you don’t see the link between the lower infection/death rate and the fact that 40m people have had at least one vaccination?
Again, so we're led to believe. The reporting of causes of death can be manipulated to show anything desired, and can easily be switched the other way to suit a narrative. I'd never deter anyone from having it, as any outcomes are not my responsibility, but I reject the idea that unvaccinated people pose a risk to vaccinated people. This is what we're being led to believe & it's dangerous territory. Year on year overall death rates in the UK tell a much different story to the one we're being told to be afraid of. A rapid decline from a peak in 1978 all the way to 2013. A rise until 2018 & then a slower rise from 2018 to the present. The rate of deaths per 1000 has slowed since the pandemic. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/death-rate There have been in excess of 800,000 hospital admissions from the vaccine in the UK & 1213 deaths. This goes unreported, and therefore so does the cause of each tragic death. The rise in the use of the term 'asymptomatic', which replaced the term 'healthy' is more puzzling. Israeli doctors, with high vaccine experience, have recently strongly recommended it not be administered to children under any circumstances. NHS staff have had it available since the start, but there is now talk of making it compulsory. Why should they need to make it compulsory? Surely every NHS worker has already rushed at the chance? I sometimes wonder how different the figures would be if they said "Died within 28 days of watching an episode of Homes under the hammer" instead of a (well documented as inaccurate) Covid test? Probably not that different. Certainly the FOI requests I've seen (Kent NHS trust & Cornwall NHS trust) show deaths from Covid, with no other underlying health conditions, in single figures, since the start of the pandemic. Like I said, it's a question of personal choice to not have the vaccine, just as much as it's someone else's personal choice to believe the Government, the pharmaceutical companies and the safety of an unapproved, experimental injection. It's human nature to back your own decisions. I'm not a believer in "Yeah, but It changes your DNA, dunnit' (It doesn't), and nor do I believe a tracking device is somehow administered through a hypodermic needle so that we can be controlled by a Chinese-made 5G network! I do however believe any benefit is worthwhile for vulnerable members of society, despite my mum developing blood-clots on her lungs, followed by hospitalisation for pneumonia shortly after her first jab.
Astra Zeneca I presume? I like the way people say having AZ is still safer than Covid. The comparison should be is AZ safer than the other vaccines not is it safer than Covid, its clearly not (safer than the other vaccines). I am still surprised they decided nobody under 40 would receive AZ, quite a U-turn from telling everyone there are no issues with it. Denmark stopped using it altogether, they aren't playing politics and they aren't a 3rd world country with underdeveloped scientific facilities and tin foil hat wearing nutters in charge. Its a no brainer for the elderly and vulnerable though, get the jab. Not surprised there's hesitancy amongst the fit and healthy though.
@SimonRR Hahaha! I never expected or hoped for so much disagreement! I'm sure you've noticed I've not reciprocated, out of respect for differing views & opinions to mine. It's unclear what you disagree with though. Is it the death figures I quoted (and provided a link to)? NHS compulsory vaccinations? Israeli Doctors? The Freedom of Information results? Or do you perhaps believe it does indeed change one's DNA? Answers on the back of a used £50 note, sil vous plait!
I neither have to explain why I disagree or agree with you, I just disagree wirh everything you say re the vaccine, there you go simple aint it
Would it have been better if everyone had given a one-word answer to the original question, with 'Yes' being the only option?
